it takes on market leaders apple and samsung and they have soared more than 150% in just the past six months. 150 -- i mean, this is a classic sort of dash for trash that we've seen so far this year. >> i like that, yes. where there are a lot of stocks that people questioned the future of the stocks and they questioned the quality of the stocks and these are the ones that had been gaining. >> right. blackberry, bed bath and beyond, best buy, hewlett-packard. >> yes. >> all companies thought to be on the ropes and all companies resurgent and all companies very inexpensive if they get it right. if they get it right, blackberry has no problem. >> eric schmidt will be in line because he's using one with the keyboard so he would have to wait for the q10 and not the z10 because ironically he uses a blackberry. he likes the keyboard. >> i'll tell you what's ironic, when i went to my college reunion. steve ballmer was using a nokia. why? microsoft -- >> exactly. he said look at this. oh, my god, i've never seen one of those. >> because nobody has one. >> if he'd pulled out a blackberry, it wo